mama, with truely meant respect, i'm not sure why you took offense to jeeks' post because while chronologically after yours, it appeared to be directed more at keltin's objections, which were just part of a discussion between he and vb (and vb is a big girl who can and did handle every well intended albeit contrary comment by keltin).
i think your question was pretty clear, that it was just that: a question. no one thought you were stirring poop, so any comment afterwards about the name had nothing to do with you.
i think you are right, however, that introspection is important before posting, but also, maybe more important after you've read something that you take offense to. people get too touchy too quickly, imo.
as far as people leaving goes, i think there's a steady enough group of regulars that will keep this place alive until old ones come back, new ones join, and the ebb and flow of both continue.
back on topic-ish:
i happen to think red gravy, vicious or not

, is a great name. it explains a lot to those who understand it, and will create buzz about it to those who are just learning of the term. after all, you don't eat the name, so if the food is what we've come to expect from vb, it'll undoubtedly be a success.
