Windows 11 OS

I got a new HP Envy last fall - it's the 'hybrid' version i.e. keyboard and touch screen.
never thought I'd like the touchscreen aka tablet mode - but it is great for many situations.
Came Win11 preloaded.

Win11 is not very much different than W10. as with all Win versions, everything you knew and loved is still there, they've simply rearranged it.

once you get rid of all the annoying trash&garbage - it seems a bit more stable than Win10.
my recommendations:

- in Updates, turn off the option to "Receive updates for other Microsoft products"
they use this to stuff you computer full of useless junk - without asking if you want it.... - and it resets (m)any customized settings you may have without telling you. suddenly , , , things not working like yesterday . . .

- if it's on the computer, get rid of the app "Microsoft Pictures" - I have no idea whether it is a good or bad tool - but it insists on being the one and only app to be used to all kinds of media files. you cannot over ride it, you cannot assign a default app for a file type other than Pictures.

- Win11 uses "Secure Boot." Not sure I've gotten to the bottom of this, but it seems one cannot 'turn off' the use of the startup PIN

- if the computer coughs, without access to your OneDrive folder, it's DOA.
mine decided one morning it "Could not Access Your PIN" - long ugly story but I had to rebuild the computer from scratch.
and, during the rebuild it refused to use my old OneDrive account, had to open a new one....
so, do heed the instructions to make your rescue disk,, and ignore the instructions about not writing down your userid and password for the OneDrive account - you will eventually really need it.

- side note: since DOS 2.0 I have kept my data files on Drive D: That way when the OS crashed, I could restore the OS from an image and not disturb my data files. Well, the Win11 rescue disk wipes out the entire physical drive - both C: and D: (and/or other logical partitions) so one needs a bootable USB to save data on D: if you get caught 'un-backed-up' - before rebuilding from scratch. if you're using disk images, make a fresh image for each OneDrive account - an image from a prior OneDrive account will _not_ work after rebuild....
 
I don't understand most of it, but your post made me anxious, C-man!

Lee
 
Is there talk out there about phasing out Windows 10? I'm not tech savvy, so please forgive me if that's a dumb question.
 
QSis said:
I don't understand most of it, but your post made me anxious, C-man!

Lee
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nothing to be anxious about - one merely needs to decide if you own your computer or Microsoft owns your computer.
Win11 does take the "we know what's best for you" approach much more aggressively than any other prior version.
so if you dump the garbage, and turn off the ability for MS to download/install/make default it's latest software wet dream, it all works as before.

personally I have my own favorite programs / applications / ways-of-doing-things that I'm - frankly, my deer - too damn old to go with the latest whiz-bangie bug ladened piece of xrap from Microsoft.
it's like me using an iPhone . . . get stuck, can't do x,y,z . . . DD2 grew up with an Apple in her mouth, I ask, "Oh, that's simple. just swipe up/down/left/right/diagonal/whatever...." no where does Apple tell you that .... it's an osmosis thing.
 
Cooksie said:
Is there talk out there about phasing out Windows 10? I'm not tech savvy, so please forgive me if that's a dumb question.
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every version of Windows continues to work. I have, but seldom use anymore, a plotter that still requires Win3.1 - and an ancient aged bronzed Compaq 386 machine that drives it....
what happens is Microsoft "ends support" for "a" version, which they say means no more functional or security updates.
but the version will live on until their new system does not, by design, run programs/applications from older versions.
software makers leap for joy when a new Win won't run the old program version - everyone has to buy/upgrade to the latest version of their software....

more practically, it means MS coerces pc makers to install the new version. my prior laptop I special ordered with Win7, altho Win10 was the current version. it was a special 'business' order - you could not get it in a big box store.... I skipped Win8 altogether, but did eventually upgrade to Win10 on that machine.
 
Thanks Chowder. Good info.
I have procrastinated on going to Win 11. I still run Win 10. I used the snipping tool daily. I understand the snipping tool is changed to something else in win 11. It might still work like the current one but since I'm not sure and I have no incentive to jump to 11 I'm still on 10. For now that's okay by me.
 
my fav snipper is MWSnap - short sweet direct to the point . . .
it runs under W11 but it shifts the screen resolution when snapping... probably due to the high res "and other" of the touch screen.

tried the W11 snipper - like dozens more mouse clicks . . . .

there's nothing in W11 that seriously outshines W10 for the average user - methinks it's mostly forced security and forced updates driven.
 
ChowderMan said:
I got a new HP Envy last fall - it's the 'hybrid' version i.e. keyboard and touch screen.
never thought I'd like the touchscreen aka tablet mode - but it is great for many situations.
Came Win11 preloaded.

Win11 is not very much different than W10. as with all Win versions, everything you knew and loved is still there, they've simply rearranged it.

once you get rid of all the annoying trash&garbage - it seems a bit more stable than Win10.
my recommendations:

- in Updates, turn off the option to "Receive updates for other Microsoft products"
they use this to stuff you computer full of useless junk - without asking if you want it.... - and it resets (m)any customized settings you may have without telling you. suddenly , , , things not working like yesterday . . .

- if it's on the computer, get rid of the app "Microsoft Pictures" - I have no idea whether it is a good or bad tool - but it insists on being the one and only app to be used to all kinds of media files. you cannot over ride it, you cannot assign a default app for a file type other than Pictures.

- Win11 uses "Secure Boot." Not sure I've gotten to the bottom of this, but it seems one cannot 'turn off' the use of the startup PIN

- if the computer coughs, without access to your OneDrive folder, it's DOA.
mine decided one morning it "Could not Access Your PIN" - long ugly story but I had to rebuild the computer from scratch.
and, during the rebuild it refused to use my old OneDrive account, had to open a new one....
so, do heed the instructions to make your rescue disk,, and ignore the instructions about not writing down your userid and password for the OneDrive account - you will eventually really need it.

- side note: since DOS 2.0 I have kept my data files on Drive D: That way when the OS crashed, I could restore the OS from an image and not disturb my data files. Well, the Win11 rescue disk wipes out the entire physical drive - both C: and D: (and/or other logical partitions) so one needs a bootable USB to save data on D: if you get caught 'un-backed-up' - before rebuilding from scratch. if you're using disk images, make a fresh image for each OneDrive account - an image from a prior OneDrive account will _not_ work after rebuild....
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It's a good thing if they've given you the option to turn off garbage updates. With 10 it's not a direct option. What I do is open the task manager and end all tasks that's suspicious. I definitely turn off the "standalone updater" until the notification goes red.
Your review is genuinely useful to everyone...much more than online "reviewer websites." Thanks a lot for taking your time.
 
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