Found a knife sharpening system - lol

buzzard767 said:
Ah ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa hahahahaha While The EdgePro is not what you would call widely available, and it does cost quite a bit more than the other systems, it DOES in fact kick their butts. There is one more system, the Gizmo, hand made by a guy named Ken Schwartz in California, that uses full size Japanese waterstones and the edge angle can be set very precisely. JoeC has one, but for 500 bucks or so I think I'll take a pass.
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The Gizmo's $400 direct from Ken, shipping & PP included. I love my EP but I'd still like to get a Gizmo down the road. My EP sharpening has gotten even better since I bought some custom cut EP stones from Ken. I've now got EP Naniwa Choseras in 400, 800 & 2k along with Shapton Pros in 1k, 2k, 5k & 8k. Good stuff!
 
High Cheese said:
Oh yeah, you could easily fabricate a holder. I'm keeping a small 2"x2" 1/4" thick scrap of wood to protect the tops of my island.
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Never had to turn the lathe on. Here's what I have into my holder:

One 3/8" x 4" lg carriage bolt
three 3/8" nuts
one 3/8" i.d. washer
one 1x4x6" piece of scrap wood (7/8" counterbore for recessing the bolt head and 3/8" thru hole. Both made with paddle drill bits)

I'm using an old 4" c-clamp to hold it to the workbench in the basement.

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High Cheese said:
The last time I sharpened my kitchen knives was over a year ago. If I can only get the DW to stop using them on dishes I think I could squeeze out 2 years.
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LMAO!!!

Wife keeps telling me the knives need sharpened.

I keep telling Wife how you're suppose to slice with a knife, not treat it like a cleaver by trying to push it straight through.

ANd I'll be in the living room and she in the kitchen and I'll hear the Tink of metal on plate and I'm torn.

Torn between remaining silent, and asking - "Honey, are you using a knife on the plate again?

I'm torn because both actions will have the same effect on preventing Wife from using the good knives on hard surface.

LOL!!!!

I don't know why I am so amused and laughing so hard at something that pisses me off so badly. L
 
>>why I am so amused and laughing so hard at something that....

because you can't live with 'em and you can't live without 'em.

fortunately my dear wife will take heed to the 'wooden board only' request and I've prevented the dishwasher excursions as well.

but two years you probably won't get anyway [g] I break out the stones and do mine 2x/yr - I skipped a couple last time that seemed to "look okay" and eventually wound up sharpening them "out of cycle" . . .
 
JoeV said:
Never had to turn the lathe on. Here's what I have into my holder:

One 3/8" x 4" lg carriage bolt
three 3/8" nuts
one 3/8" i.d. washer
one 1x4x6" piece of scrap wood (7/8" counterbore for recessing the bolt head and 3/8" thru hole. Both made with paddle drill bits)

I'm using an old 4" c-clamp to hold it to the workbench in the basement.

P1020289.jpg
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Nice job!

How do you like the system?
 
Wart said:
LMAO!!!

Wife keeps telling me the knives need sharpened.

I keep telling Wife how you're suppose to slice with a knife, not treat it like a cleaver by trying to push it straight through.

ANd I'll be in the living room and she in the kitchen and I'll hear the Tink of metal on plate and I'm torn.

Torn between remaining silent, and asking - "Honey, are you using a knife on the plate again?

I'm torn because both actions will have the same effect on preventing Wife from using the good knives on hard surface.

LOL!!!!

I don't know why I am so amused and laughing so hard at something that pisses me off so badly. L
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I've figured it out. :thumb:

My next knife is going to be a 10" gyuto. Way too big for her to handle. :mrgreen:
 
High Cheese said:
Nice job!

How do you like the system?
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At first I thought it was not doing a good job, but soon realized that most of my knives were in need of serious work. Once I was able to get the angle set across the length of the blade on both sides, and remove the nicks in a couple of knives, they all took a very nice edge. For the money I think it is a very good system for the average person to use. I may order the LS1000 hone just to be able to polish the edges.
 
If you guys are serious about your edges you should make stropping your final action. A hard leather strop loaded with .5 micron chromium oxide makes a dramatic improvement in cutting ability. The strop can also be used (and is much better for your knives) instead of a steel in between sharpening sessions. It doesn't make any difference if your final stone is 2k or a 10k polishing stone. .5 micron chromium oxide is about 25 or 30k (don't remember) and the difference in performance is huge.

DO NOT buy one of those green sticks. You want either liquid or powdered chromium oxide. I'll show you where to find them if you're interested. Once you strop you will be hooked.
 
Hey Buzz, do, or did, they use chromium oxide on barbershop strops? It always looked like they were stropping on plain leather.
 
chowhound said:
Hey Buzz, do, or did, they use chromium oxide on barbershop strops? It always looked like they were stropping on plain leather.
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I've never seen a barber use chromium oxide. It is green and you can't miss it. Some barbers use plain leather (far less effective than when charged with a medium) and many use Thiers-Issard paste. Thiers-Issard is one of the leading manufacturers of of Sabatier knives and they are world famous for their straight razors.

The following is a little blurb I copied a couple of years ago:

Thiers issard paste apparently approximates a 10,000 grit hone. I don't know if that is Japanese grit or Western. If western, then it's about 20K in Japanese rating (IE the standard by which the Norton waterstone is measured). Chromium oxide is 0.5 micron, ie 50,000 grit japanese (or 25,000 Western) so either way, chromium oxide is finer. Recommended by Thiers-Issard as the best way to maintain the shave-ready sharpness of your Premium Quality Thiers-Issard razor.

When I talk about grit size I am referring only to Japanese. I never use Western - too much confusion. All the best stones these days are Japanese so it is easy to stick with the matching system. I'll do a little research and see if .5 micron equals 50k Japanese. I used to have all this stuff memorized but I suffer from CRS. :yum:
 
Found it - .5 micron = 30k grit Japanese. I knew the 30 number meant something. I sometimes also use .25 micron diamond spray (60k J grit) but this is really overkill.
 
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