First Smoke: A turkey. Any preparation needed?

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Just wondering, is there any preparation needed before smoking a turkey? I have read and plan to have the bird at room temp so it does not lower the temp of the smoker by to much when I put it in.

What about grease? Do you set the bird in a pan or would that affect how much smoke gets to the bird? Maybe a catch pan on one of the lower shelves?
 
Three words: Brine, Brine, and…..Brine.

Get a large bucket (or card board box) and a clean trash bag. Put that bird in the bag with a good salt water and peppercorn brine and let it soak overnight if possible. About 1.5 cups of salt to 1 gallon of water is good. Some will also add just as much sugar, or half as much sugar. A whole bottle of pepper corns and Bay Leaves is also good.

If you can't fit this in your fridge, then pack it down with ice in a cooler and let it brine that way.

What kind of smoker are you using? If it’s a vertical water smoker, then fill the water pan with water, or apple juice, or beer……or a combination. That will help control the heat and catch the fat.

You can also fill that pan with sand. That will help control the heat, but the fat drips on it and makes a sandy mess. You can cover the sand with foil, but then the fat pools up. I just prefer the water as it catches the fat and then you toss it all at the end of the cook. Make sure to dump it as soon as it is cool enough! The water evaporates away leaving a thick and sludgy fat concoction that you don’t want to sit around for long – once it goes rancid…..MAN, call Hazmat!!! :yum:

Other than that, you can run the temp at around 300 and have a nice bird. Turkeys are good at higher temps, so 300 is a good mark. Keep the smoke rolling for the first 2-3 hours. After that, start monitoring the temp, and pull the bird when the breast is 160-165. Foil it, let it rest, then enjoy. If you’re so inclined, then inject the Turkey with Creole Butter!! Yum!
 
Thanks Keltin. I had no idea about the brine. Very good explanation of how to get er done. :thumb: :D


Oh yeah, you asked what smoker I got... I got the one on sale at lowes that someone posted about here. Perfect flame. It's a propane smoker.
 
Here is how I have done the couple that I've made. Based on what was left I would say they where very good. The perfect size turkey for this is also between 10 to 12 lbs avoid using one larger if possible. I also put some herb butter under the breast skin which we tried after the first one. It was even a bigger success with the crowd.

Smoked Turkey

Recipes

Smoked turkey doesn't need a recipe as seasonings, ingredients and spices are not necessary. You can add a little salt, pepper or poultry seasoning, but the smoke provides the principle flavor. Don't be afraid, however, to get creative with that smoke by experimenting with different types of wood -- hickory or mesquite being the most popular. Any chunks or chips of water-soaked hardwood or fruit-wood will work, but do not use softwoods like pine, fir, cedar or spruce as they will give the food a turpentine flavor and coat it with an ugly and inedible black pitch.

Also, instead of smoking with water, try wine or juices. For the turkey in the photo above, we used Hickory Chips that had been soaked in a mixture of red wine and apple juice. This same liquid was then poured in the water pan and used for the smoking process.

Once the fire was going nicely, we set the water pan in place along with the smoker's cylindrical body. We strained the wood chips out of the soaking liquid, adding the liquid to the water pan, then filling the pan with additional liquids.
Place the lid on the smoker and wait for the internal temperature to reach 250° F to 300° F. Some smokers have built in temperature indicators, if not use an oven thermometer to determine temperature.

Once you have the right heat, quickly place the turkey on the top grill rack and replace the cover. Add soaked wood chips to the charcoal through the side door of the smoker.
Add charcoal every hour, as necessary, to maintain 250° F to 300° F. Replenish the liquid and wood chips as necessary. Heat and liquid are critical to maintaining the hot smoke that cooks the turkey.

Helpful Hints
Smoking time depends on the size of the turkey, the distance from the heat, temperature of the coals, as well as the outside air temperature. You can roughly estimate about 20 to 30 minutes per pound of turkey, but it's important to use a meat thermometer to be sure your turkey is thoroughly cooked. The turkey is done when the food thermometer, placed in the inner thigh, reaches 180° F (be sure the thermometer is not touching the bone).

Unless you have a sheltered outdoor spot, avoid smoking on windy days as this can effect the temperature, or even put out the fire. Luckily, our Los Angeles apartment balcony is completely sheltered from the wind, so I rarely have this problem, but it is probably the biggest obstacle facing would-be smokers.

Also, avoid opening the cover or door as much as possible. Smoking takes place at low temperatures and opening the lid or door causes quick heat loss. If you must open the door to add charcoal, chips or liquid, do it as quickly as possible and close it and avoid the urge to peek at the turkey during cooking!

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Basic Brine for Smoking Meat

This is a very basic brine recipe for preparing meats and fish for smoking. Add any personal taste preferences to the brine for additional flavor enhancement. I like to add white wine, soy sauce, and various herbs and spices. Anything that you like will work, so experiment at will.

INGREDIENTS:
1/4 cup kosher salt
1/4 cup packed brown sugar
4 cups water

In a medium bowl, combine the salt, sugar and water. Whisk vigorously until all the salt and sugar is dissolved. Then pour this mixture over the meat, poultry, or fish that you are preparing. Soak for several hours, or overnight. (Note: Make certain the meat is fully submerged in the brine, and make more brine as needed to fully cover the meat.)
 
To submerge the turkey that will take a lot of brine mix.

What is the purpose of the brine?
 
Doc, cooking a whole bird, especially "low and slow" is tricky. For one thing, internal temp of the dark meat should be about 175 - 180, while the white meat starts to dry out much above 160.

Brining helps the bird retain moisture, which makes the white meat more forgiving to higher temps.

Try joe's brine recipe, and double it. Don't forget that the bird will displace the liquid.

Poultry does not benefit from very low smoker temps. I run mine about 300. Also, you may want to go a little lighter on the wood for turkey, than you might use on big hunks of pork or beef. Lightly-smoked poultry is SO much better than an over-smoked bird!

Good luck!

Lee
 
After I brined my first turkey I will never go back. Best bird I ever cooked. I now brine turkeys and chickens for both the smoker or the oven.
 
i smoke my turkeys at higher temps ...
i run about 270-280 when i do whole poultry ..
and brine ..
a little oil on the skin will help crisp it up a bit also ..
 
what temp where you cooking at Mr. Green Jeans? I sure hope mine is done in six hours.
 
12 pound turkey at 250 to 300 degrees 20 to 30 minutes per pound in a smoker would take about 6 hours. This is an estimate so results can very based on how often one opens the smoker, weather effects on the smoker such as wind, how steady you can keep the heat etc. Those times would also be close in an oven in the home at the same temps.
 
Overall smoking my first turkey came out very good.
We brined the bird and were very impressed with how moist it stayed after cooking. It was about a 12 pound bird. It cooked in 4 1/2 hours, but we stretched it to 5 hours. My meat thermometer was set for turkey to get up to 180 (well done) but taking advice from here we cooked it to 165 and were very happy with it.
Thanks for all the help, advice and encouragement. It is greatly appreciated.

Here are a few pics.
 

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I tried to show the smoke ring but, obviously, I am not a photographer. There was a little pink ring but it's hard if not impossible to see in those pics. Sorry.
 
mesquite. I did not soak it and it did not smoke very long, at least not at as long as I intended. I read where the meat mainly benefits from the first two hours of smoking but my smoke only lasted one hour. I added more chips but did not dump out the used ones and no smoke showed up from that. I didn't have a place handy to dump hot ash is the reason I didn't dump the used up ash.
 
Mesquite?? Aye, caramba! Good thing it DIDN'T smoke longer than it did - mesquite is a very strong, pungent flavor!

What temp did you hold your cooker at?

You did great, Doc - it looks fantastic! :a1:

Lee
 
doc that birdie looks fantastic!! i can't wait for thanksgiving!! LOL i won't have smoked birdie but i love turkey sammies. can you mail me a sammie - breast, mayo and lots of lettuce.
 
I use mesquite when I smoke jalapeños into chipotle peppers. I used sherry and hickory for the turkeys I've smoke in the past. I also have Jack Daniel's wood chips which are made from the oak aging barrels. I also some times the JD with a bit of Alder, cherry, apple, hickory and mesquite that I like with pork and beef.
 
Mesquite?? Aye, caramba! Good thing it DIDN'T smoke longer than it did - mesquite is a very strong, pungent flavor!

What temp did you hold your cooker at?

You did great, Doc - it looks fantastic! :a1:

Lee

Just under 300. Mesquite was strong. You could smell it in the house for awhile after i had brought the bird inside.


i love mesquite and hickory mixed.

I had some hickory chips also ....I never even considered mixing them. For my first smoke I kept it simple. :D
 
Just under 300. Mesquite was strong. You could smell it in the house for awhile after i had brought the bird inside.




I had some hickory chips also ....I never even considered mixing them. For my first smoke I kept it simple. :D
you did a great job!!


i'm still waiting for my sammie!!
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