High Cheese
Saucier
Ever since I saw some pics of how they make it I can't eat it. I want to, but can't. 
Do you eat veal?
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buckytom
Grill Master
what did you see?
if most people saw how pigs and chickens and beef cattle were treated, they might go vegetarian, or at least wouldn't be so quick to waste food.
most veal in america is pink veal, which is just a calf that was raised on a semi-restricted diet. it's not exactly a free range life, but they're slaughtered at 2 to 4 months, so it's not that cruel. treatment that's not all that different from chickens and turkeys, really.
white veal is the bad (but tastier) stuff.
in order for the beastie to have it's flesh remain white, the animals are fed diets deficient in iron and green feeds, and never see sunlight, nor the outside of their tiny pens. some are fed nothing but milk and are prevented from moving around at all. this often creates anemia in the creature, so it's cruel even for the short month or two of the creatures life.
if most people saw how pigs and chickens and beef cattle were treated, they might go vegetarian, or at least wouldn't be so quick to waste food.
most veal in america is pink veal, which is just a calf that was raised on a semi-restricted diet. it's not exactly a free range life, but they're slaughtered at 2 to 4 months, so it's not that cruel. treatment that's not all that different from chickens and turkeys, really.
white veal is the bad (but tastier) stuff.
in order for the beastie to have it's flesh remain white, the animals are fed diets deficient in iron and green feeds, and never see sunlight, nor the outside of their tiny pens. some are fed nothing but milk and are prevented from moving around at all. this often creates anemia in the creature, so it's cruel even for the short month or two of the creatures life.
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High Cheese
Saucier
I didn't know about the pink/white veal. I know about raising livestock for food and all, birds don't bother me but mammals do.
Knowing about pink veal is reassuring tho.
Knowing about pink veal is reassuring tho.
joec
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We don't eat a lot of veal either though just because it is hard to get here. I do find ground veal but won't buy ground meats at all as I prefer to grind my own meats. We also don't eat lamb though it again is due to the fact I don't know where it comes from.
90% of the meat we eat is free range from a local farmer. His/Her meats are farm raised by them (beef/pork only) as are their feed crops (grass feed for the most part). They butcher a couple of steers and pigs about 3 times a year then age it properly for months before selling it. Their prices are a bit higher than the food store but not much higher really (cheaper than Whole Foods). I tend to buy a side of beef and a side of pork each year. I also buy some other cuts such as briskets (usually 3 to 4 whole) as well as extra racks of ribs (both beef and pork). Occasionally we buy a flank, flat iron or other steaks in the super market but behind the butcher counter not the packaged stuff.
90% of the meat we eat is free range from a local farmer. His/Her meats are farm raised by them (beef/pork only) as are their feed crops (grass feed for the most part). They butcher a couple of steers and pigs about 3 times a year then age it properly for months before selling it. Their prices are a bit higher than the food store but not much higher really (cheaper than Whole Foods). I tend to buy a side of beef and a side of pork each year. I also buy some other cuts such as briskets (usually 3 to 4 whole) as well as extra racks of ribs (both beef and pork). Occasionally we buy a flank, flat iron or other steaks in the super market but behind the butcher counter not the packaged stuff.
chowhound
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So... are you saying you eat veal, Joe? ;^)
I don't cook it, so when I used to go out I would order it. I try not to think about how food arrives on my plate, so no problem with veal.
More veal info you don't want to know: A guy I used to work with (from England) said they would heard the calves onto iron bars, their legs would drop through as they fell onto their bellies, then they would be gutted in order to bleed out.
BTW, do we have any PETA members here? (lol)
I don't cook it, so when I used to go out I would order it. I try not to think about how food arrives on my plate, so no problem with veal.
More veal info you don't want to know: A guy I used to work with (from England) said they would heard the calves onto iron bars, their legs would drop through as they fell onto their bellies, then they would be gutted in order to bleed out.
BTW, do we have any PETA members here? (lol)
joec
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What I said was I don't eat because I can't get it here except in ground or chops. Chops I don't like and I don't buy ground meats ever. I haven't eaten veal since I left Florida (had a great butcher there) over 6 years ago. My meat supplier doesn't do veal at all.
joec
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Not me by a long shot, but I do understand some of what they are saying and do agree. They just carry it way to far and I am a meat eater.
chowhound
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Ya know... just yesterday I did a Google on that Kardashian that Lamar Odom is marrying and wouldn't you know... there she is doing a nekkid peta add
Sure, she won't wear fur, but it looks like she has no problem wearing cosmetics that are typically tested on animals.
joec
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Man I've eaten meats that would make a billy goat puke in my life. I would eat insects if hungry enough and have. 
Most of you should once in your life travel the world eating their local foods and I don't mean European Countries but Asia, India and Africa. You would be amazed at what they eat there.
Most of you should once in your life travel the world eating their local foods and I don't mean European Countries but Asia, India and Africa. You would be amazed at what they eat there.
joec
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I did some serious world travels between '80 and '83 (93 countries) and had at least some local foods in most. I learned early on if it looks good, smell good and tastes good don't ask just eat it as odds are you wouldn't touch it if you knew the recipe. Now if it doesn't meet that criteria then don't touch it regardless of how hungry you are. 
joec
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You really ought to try those. Buffalo is just another type of beef and a bit leaner that regular beef. Venison is just plan good and also similar to beef in texture. Ostrich is also excellent though a bit more red in color than beef is still is more like a cut of beef than chicken for example. Also a real lean meat.
Fisher's Mom
Mother Superior
I've eaten it in restaurants and it was wonderful. I love veal piccata. But I try really hard not to think about where any of my meat comes from. I know that's wrong, but I really love meat as long as I "forget" it comes from sweet little animals.
High Cheese
Saucier
Oooooh...I'd like to turn the tables on that one!
Where's she live? I'll give her something to get upset about.
joec
New member
I heard about this when it happened a few months ago now. I agree that is wrong but then eating venison keeps the herds down so they don't over populate as most hunting seasons are meant to control.
As long as it is controlled with that in mind I have no problem with hunters take game animals including alligators in Florida. Now I don't hunt though many in my family does so I do get the meat from time to time. I just never got into going out and shooting an animal down with a rifle when many game meats are available in restaurants and some stores today.
I understand about hunting and it's importance. What I don't agree with is the brutality to this innocent animal. She could have taken other measures to protect her precious petunias before beating it to death.
joec
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No argument from me, and I vote they take her down to the creek and hold her under until the thrashing stops.
