hells kitchen/ kitchen nightmares

[Rusty Shackleford]

anyone watch these? i did the first season or two of hells kitchen, but it didint seem to be as good last season. not sure if im gonna watch it this year. but i must say, i do love kitchen nightmares. that show is pretty good.

[smoke king]

I'm going to watch this year simply because theres a local "Chef" from Omaha on. I used quotation marks because evidently (according to local news) she has no formal culinary training, so I'm curious as to how she'll do.

[joec]

I watched a bit of the first season of Hell's Kitchen and didn't care much for it. Now I've never seen the US version of Kitchen Nightmares however I have seen about all of the Euro version which are excellent. There is another show I just caught on the BBC last week end "The F Word" that really was good. It covered a lot of stuff in one hour including what is in sausage as sold in food stores, two young guys trying for a single job working for one of Gordon's restaurant. Interviews with some other chef's as well as some groups of foodies. All in all a hour well spent.

[RobsanX]

I watch Hell's Kitchen religiously, Kitchen Nightmares occasionally, and now I'm really getting into The F Word.

I like The F Word because it shows Gordon's softer side, family man, urban farmer, etc. It's weird how his pigs and sheep like pets though, I don't think I could eat them after that...

[Rusty Shackleford]

i could. im currently eating a pig we named bacon. we bought him as a lil piggy :D

[Miniman]

I watch both programmes and used to watch the F word - but that has gone off really. Ithink that Hell's Kitchen has lost its way - the last USA one I watched seemed to be people more into celebrity than being a great chef - also lots of back stabbing.

Kitchen Nightmares is good seeing what goes on behind the scenes in amny of these places - though can put you off going out.

[lilylove]

Hell's Kitchen I watch... but can't make it through a whole show I start feeling bad for the chefs. Old Gordo yells TOOOO much. He makes me cry! lol.

[CharlieD]

What chanel is it on? I haven't seen it, only heard about it.

[Rusty Shackleford]

What chanel is it on? I haven't seen it, only heard about it.

FOX during the evening. not sure what days, though, i cant remember.

[smoke king]

What chanel is it on? I haven't seen it, only heard about it.

Its on Fox Charlie. Season premiere is tonite (Thursday)

[Barbarian57]

I've only seen one episode of Kitchen Nightmares. It was pretty interesting. Gross, but a good show.

:chef:Barbara

[Calicolady]

I love Kitchen Nightmares:boxing: , but then I'm from Jersey.:ohmy:

[Barbarian57]

I watched Hell's Kitchen for the first time tonight. It was interesting.

:shock:Barbara

[GhettoRacingKid]

I'm going to watch this year simply because theres a local "Chef" from Omaha on. I used quotation marks because evidently (according to local news) she has no formal culinary training, so I'm curious as to how she'll do.


ohh yeah she is a chef all right. A culinary instructer with no training and she didnt even mention what makes her knowledgable.

Im not too into this season but its a step forward. they have some knowledgable people then the trianwrecks.

trainwrecks are good tv the knowledgable people make it real

I do love kitchen knightmare but not the over dramatised US version. I try to catch it on BBC America or DL it.

[Rusty Shackleford]

ok i did end up watching it last night. its better! he is going to break that instructor, i tell you what. although i really dont see an issue with using the same pan right away if its the same food? tho i knew it would be good when she told him she also teaches manners :yum: lmao

[heb1976]

Never got into Kitchen Nightmares, but I love Hell's Kitchen. I can't watch it this year because too many of my other shows are on at the same time. Who won it last year? I never did watch the season finale.

[RobsanX]

It looked like they were starting with a mirepoix or some other saute, and all that leftover tomato in there might burn or just generally screw up the flavor...

I can't believe how many signature dishes he actually liked!

[RobsanX]

Never got into Kitchen Nightmares, but I love Hell's Kitchen. I can't watch it this year because too many of my other shows are on at the same time. Who won it last year? I never did watch the season finale.

Yeah, now it conflicts with The Office, which is a real problem in our house and probably the show in general...

[smoke king]

Yeah, now it conflicts with The Office, which is a real problem in our house and probably the show in general...

Yeah-that is going to be an issue in our house as well.

I have to Concur with 1B1S1B, Coleen (Our Nebraska homegirl) is in for a rough ride!! That was hard to watch!!

I guess if you are willing to go on that show, you have to expect to be treated like that!

Meanwhile, I think I'll open a "recreational"(?) culinary school of my own!!

[Wart]

Yeah-that (conflict with the Office) is going to be an issue in our house as well.

Luckily Time Warner Cable provides, for a minimal fee, a DVR with two tuners, watch one recorded program while recording two more. Can't tell how often I've done that.

I have to Concur with 1B1S1B, Coleen (Our Nebraska homegirl) is in for a rough ride!! That was hard to watch!!

Thats on Coleen.

The no formal culinary training is one thing. The Teachers Attitude is going to be what sinks her.

It's not that I have Authority Issues (Oh yes you do, NO I DON"T, Don't bullshit me ... Ok, I have authority issues now go away), Wife worked at KSU 30 years, had to put up with teachers, I took numerous classes, "Teachers" have to learn they don't know everything, but learning isn't something teachers aren't inclined to do because, well, their Teachers, not students. Teachers always know best.

I saw Coleens attitude through the show but when she changed Gordos recipe by adding honey, BANG! THERE IT IS!!! Teacher knows best. My ass.

At this point of the competition it's about keeping your head low, learning the Ramsy way, and being noticed as little as possable because not being noticed means your doing it right. Not changing the Chefs freaking recipe.

I guess if you are willing to go on that show, you have to expect to be treated like that!

She asked for it.
:sorry:

Meanwhile, I think I'll open a "recreational"(?) culinary school of my own!!

She was getting $300 for 4 hours of instruction?

Not any more.

If she pulls her head from her rump and figures out she's there to LEARN depending how long she lasts, she may continue making her $300,closer to the end the more she'll make.

However, if the women lost I think Coleen would have been gone and her school would be no more.

[Fisher's Mom]

Oh yeah - I almost wet my pants when Colleen told Ramsey that she also teaches manners!!!!!! Like you said Wart, she asked for it!

[Maverick2272]

I don't watch either, but DW likes Kitchen Nightmares.

[TAEdison]

I felt sorry for that gal last night that got hurt, she was great giving up her place so those lazys could stay

[larry_stewart]

I usually watch Kitchen Nighmares when he is at a restaurant that Ive heard of. He has already hit 2 restaurants in the town I work in, and another in the town i live in. Ive never eaten in any of them ( before or after). But it was kinda of Bizarre watching it and seeing people you know as diners. One of them was a teacher in my kids school. She made a big stink about how long the food was taking to be served.

Hells Kitchen I watch regularly. All I know is that if I were going to compete on this show, the first thing I would do before ever stepping on a plane to LA would be to learn how to make Risotto. That is probably the most criticized dish on the show from season to season. Everytime someone gets yelled at for making it not to Ramsay's standards, I just think to myself " should have learned from the previous episodes". Although, Im sure he'd find something wrong about it any way, or something new to yell about.

larry

[smoke king]

the first thing I would do before ever stepping on a plane to LA would be to learn how to make Risotto.

True that!! I've watched pretty regularly, and you're right Larry-that seems to be the one thing that gets under his craw worse than anything!

I've been watching with keen interest this year, since the cooking "instructor" is from right here in Omaha. I can't speak one way or another to her abilities, but I do know she needs to learn to shut her mouth! Had it not been for the young lady removing herself from the competition, she would have been gone last night.

[High Cheese]

I think the DW has been recording last years HK. The contestants pretty much suck at cooking. I can't see any of them fit to run a kitchen. Just like with American Idol, if they have no skill, I get bored very fast.

Kitchen Nightmares is ok once in a while. It reinforces my decision to eat home.

[smoke king]

I can't see any of them fit to run a kitchen.

Thats a good point Jeeks. Frankly, I can't picture any of this years crop running the kitchen in a high end restaraunt.

[Miniman]

I think a lot of them do it now because they want the celebrity rather tahn because they are good cooks. The first couple of series were much better because there were talented people on who did want to suceed.

Do you think people these days just want things easily, rather than working hard from the bottom rungs and working up to executive cghef, they want to be there immediately & quite often don't have the skills or experience to do a really good jobs.

[larry_stewart]

Whats funny is they say they had thousands and thousands of applicants, limited it to 300, and now the final 16. They obviously cast people who cant get along, or have hot tempers or who are 'interesting' 'quirky' ..... to make for a more interesting show. I agree that originally id pick up a few pointers here and there, but now its just another reality show, which i do enjoy watching. Its kinda like when u drive by a car accident and have to slow down to see whats going on. I always say to myself, why waste your night watching that crap. But, after flipping through 300 + channels, im always back watching it.

larry

[smoke king]

They obviously cast people who cant get along, or have hot tempers or who are 'interesting' 'quirky' ..... to make for a more interesting show.

I think thats it in a nutshell. What we tend to forget is that if the show were being filmed in 99% of the restaraunts out there, we would be bored to tears. Conflict, and its fallout, are what sells.

I don't for sure how they go about selecting the participants, but in an interview by a local news station, Coleen said that they sent a "casting call"(?) to her cooking "school", and when none of her students wanted to participate, she decided to go for it.

[larry_stewart]

Coleen said that they sent a "casting call"(?) to her cooking "school", and when none of her students wanted to participate, she decided to go for it.

She's probably kicking herself in the Butt now :dizzy: But good for her. Maybe she can pull out of this thing unharmed. Have a few good shows, and build up her business. Its a once in a lifetime experience , so why not take the chance. The only thing that can get hurt is her pride, and i think she is well beyond that already :shock:

[Wart]

Had it not been for the young lady removing herself from the competition, she (Coleen) would have been gone last night.


I think Ji is her name.

What I think is we havent seen the last of Ji. I don't know the time frame of the show, the period it's shot over, a couple days off the ankle and she may be able to come back (Assuming this isn't a put on being used to further the drama. The slip didn't look that bad BUT I know devistating things can happen when it looks like nothing happened.)

I'm not sure Coleen would have been gone, Lacy, the Ditz who skipped out on doing the front work and spent the day in bed could have been gone too.

Whats worse, someone who gives you a headache or someone who skipps out on their job?

Of course this is assuming this isn't all a manipulation.

Far as the contestants, you know the contestants are profiled, pshyc tested to give good show. And you know the production crew stirs them up for the little interviews, sort of like the Jerry Springer Show(sic). Take a group put together for their personalities, pock them with a pointy stick and you have drama.

[Wart]

She's probably kicking herself in the Butt now :dizzy: But good for her. Maybe she can pull out of this thing unharmed. Have a few good shows, and build up her business. Its a once in a lifetime experience , so why not take the chance. The only thing that can get hurt is her pride, and i think she is well beyond that already :shock:


Does she actually teach at the school or does she own and operate it?

[smoke king]

Does she actually teach at the school or does she own and operate it?

Its my understanding that shes the instructor as well as the owner. I know where her "school" is, and its just a small storefront in a strip mall.

[Wart]

Its my understanding that shes the instructor as well as the owner.


I would say she should get with the program. Keep her mouth closed, listen and learn.

[Love2"Q"]

i like both shows .. the british version of nightmares is
better to me .. he really helps them out ..

[MikeStewart]

I get a kick out of both shows but I really think that the Hell's Kitchen stuff is a bit over the top.

Mr. Ramsey is a little too " in your face" for me.

It does make for good television.

Folks love Drama.


Mike

[Wart]

Hells Kitchen reminds me of Boot Camp without the discipline.

I think Ramsey is getting burnt out on being the TI.

[Ralphanator]

Hells Kitchen is a great show but when Gordan start to scream and humiliate the Chefs i think it is a bit overboard!!

Kitchen Nightmares BBC version vs the USA version goes to show you how to F-Up a good Show! to much drama and BS on the u s version! The British is right to the point of what is wrong and how to fix it!